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with no agreement to avert the fiscal cliff. house speaker john boehner is home in ohio tonight. but he left a video behind. >> washington has a serious spending problem. >> reporter: which played in the capitol tonight would echo through the empty halls. >> the president's solution of raising taxes -- >> reporter: the republican leader of the senate took a holiday swipe at democrats. >> i'm stuck here at washington. trying to prevent my fellow kentuckyians from shelling out more money to uncle sam next year. >> reporter: we're learning more tonight about how the negotiations fell apart. the wall street journal quoting unnamed sources said that when the speaker offered $800 billion in revenue by limiting deductions the speaker asked, what do i get? the president reportedly responded, you get nothing, i get that for free. unable to agree on a big deal, on taxes and entitlements, the president is now hoping to get a small deal, extend middle-class tax rates and agree to a framework for a big deal. >> that's an achievable goal, that can get done in ten days. >> reporter: can it? consider the speaker's
. >> we're either going over the fiscal cliff or the house is ultimately going to have to pass a bill that amajority of house republicans oppose. the most significant thing we heard was that from congressman latourette that john boehner wasn't wed to the rule that says the leadership won't bring a bill to the floor with a support of the majority from the majority. clooirts they don't overlap. there's no bill that can get a majority ofhouse republicans they would sign. either going over the cliff and have to pass a bill with the house. >> i thought we would have a deal maybe not a small deal and not a dig deal. i don't think na anymore and it's more likely going over the cliff. the effect of doing that on the economy and effect of the sense washington can't govern itself. thaetsd what we heard from republican house members and hear from the white house. it's not catastrophic you can't consider going over the fiscal cliff. >> we've been told this is hoor risk and unemployment will shoot up and now it's not that big of a deal. >> it depends on what happens. if they turn around quickly an
on the fiscal cliff by his own party. today in the aftermath of newtown, the national rifle association offers a safe school plan. >> the only think that stops a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun. >> our conversation with nra point man asa hutchinson. connecticut senator joe lieberman on the culture of violence. then the gop's civil war. >> not the outcome that i wanted, but that was the will of the house. >> republican versus republican on the fiscal cliff with congressman steven la tourest and mick mulvaney. weighing in, "usa today's" bureau chief susan page, ron brownstein and michael duffy, washington bureau chief for "time" magazine. i'm candy crowley. this is "state of the union." nine days after the mass shooting deaths in newtown, the president of the national rifle association joined the gun debate. >> i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. >> in a similar vein, lawmakers in a growing number of states including oklahoma, missouri, minnesota, south dakota, virginia a
over the fiscal cliff. chris, what do you think's going to happen? >> up till thursday, when the house voted down or didn't vote but obviously they didn't have the votes even to take up plan b i thought this was washington jockeying and posturing. but after boehner's plan b went down without a vote, i think there's a chance we could go over the cliff. you could see it in the markets on friday when they went down 120 points and could go down more next week. brasso thanks we're going over the cliff and conrad is saying, because he's not happy with the obama pair down plan to extend the tax cuts below $250,000 and extend unemployment. he wants to split the difference between the last offers boehner and the president made before plan b. i think that's a tough road to hoe and what this will come down to is your going to be asking republicans to rejected raising taxes on people below $1 million to now accept -- i mean extended bush tax cuts below $1 million to extend only to 250,000. they would have to take a more dramatic step than the one they rejected. >> the word cliff is dramatic and so
- called fiscal cliff. the president and congress have left town for the holidays. house speaker boehner is in and obama is in hawaii. >> i'm stuck here in washington americans from showing more money to uncle sam next year. the gauche nations between white house and house speaker speaker boehner fell apart. negotiations between the white house and house eager .peaker boehner fell apart the president said that he is to working on a smaller deal avoid the fiscal cliff. >> the president is making changes when it comes to his inauguration. this time there will only be o official balls. there'll be a concert honoring .he lee terry families saturdaye held on before inauguration. out of egypt, how millions e voted on the disputed constitution. also, this cruise ship is isn't beingto italy m.rubbed from top to botto >> staring up controversy in virginia. breaking news out of egypt tonight. the constitution has received a majority of yes from more than 70%. the results were posted on the muslim's brotherhood website. was about 8ut million people. official results will not be announced for severa
the house and senate, and the decision to go over the fiscal cliff now depends on his ability to successfully negotiate and to forge a compromise that appeals to both republicans and the far left in mr. obama's party. the president metwith senate majority leader harry reid this afternoon and talked with speaker boehner to begin anew that effort to reach compromise. >> averting this middle-class tax hike is not a democratic responsibility or republican responsibility. with their foes the american people have determined that governing is a shared responsibility between both parties in this congress laws can only pass with support from democrats and republicans, and that means nobody gets 100 percent of what they want. lou: there are only ten days remaining tothe fiscal cliff. president obama headed to value within actually minutes, and members of congress have also gone home for chrrstmas vacation already. in a news conference today, speaker boehner admitted negotiations wh the president ha, indeed, been difficult. >> until the president on monday, these are my bottom lines. the
and negotiations surrounding the so-called fiscal cliff. first, the date from the house floor on the proposed plan be followed by a press release after his -- after his plan was pulled from the floor and then president obama's remarks on the ongoing negotiations. now, some house debate concerning the fiscal cliff and john boehner's alternative that would have raised taxes on annual incomes of more than $1 million. this is about one hour. >> i'm not doing a sesame street skit here. this is what we're talking about. i think about planning a which is what the majority in the house of representatives has been trying to implement. it is very simply a plan designed to put into place that democrats and republicans say they support. that is meaningful, strong, bold plans for a simple, fair tax code. the president supports tax reform and taking the top from 25% to 30%. majoritysay we in the have been trying to put into place a real, meaningful tax reform that can ensure people can reduce rates and generate domestic growth. the trouble with that is our plan a has been designed to bring about a reduction of
it squarely on the white house. that story coming up next. >>> we are now nine days away from the fiscal cliff. what happens to you if there is no deal? well, your taxes are going to go up, no doubt about that. the tax policy center says households with an annual income of $20,000 to $30,000 can expect to pay $1,064 more in taxes. the average tax increase for someone making between $50,000 and $75,000 a year is $2,399 and for those making diss 100,000 to $200,000 a tax increase of more than $6,000 awaits you. there is only one person that can provide the leadership and that is the president of the united states. >> no, sir. >> there is only one person that can provide the leadership. rather than campaigning he should be here leading and, woulding with people and talking to folks on both sides of the aisle to get a solution so we don't go over the cliff. i believe the president is eager to go over the cliff. >> i don't believe that at all. there are 535 of us that can provide leadership. there are 435 in the house. there are 100 in the senate. there is the president. all of us have a responsibi
. the house has already passed bills addressing the fiscal cliff. we passed a bill replacing the president's sequestered with irresponsible spending cuts. we did that last may. we passed a bill to stop all the tax hikes on the american people scheduled to take effect january 1, and we did that august 1. and we proposed plans over and over again that democrats used to support but now will not. i do not want taxes to go up, republican do not want texas to go up. but we only when the house. democrats continued to run washington. what the president has proposed so far simply will not do anything to solve our spending problems. he wants more spending and more tax hikes that will hurt our economy. and he simply will not deal honestly with entitlement reform and the big issues facing our country. we need significant spending cuts and real tax reform to address our long-term debt problem and pave the way for long-term growth and real growth in jobs in our country. we will continue to work with colleagues in the house and senate on a plan that protect families and small businesses from the fiscal c
. that doesn't mean they don't have work to do as the fiscal cliff looms. i take it this is a working vacation. >> reporter: white house officials have described this as a working vacation and talks are going on behind the scenes between white house staffers and hill staffers. the reality is the bulk of this probably won't get done until after christmas when lawmakers are expected to resume negotiations. there is a lot of frustration especially among senior members in both parties in part because president obama, house speaker john boehner seem so close to getting a deal done. they were really close on taxes and entitlement reform. we saw that last week house speaker john boehner couldn't get his plan b through the house. aides tell me right now president obama does not feel as though he has to compromise much more. he believes he has the leverage because he won reelection. >> on taxes i know it is hard for the republicans but the president ran on that platform. 250. no taxes for people below but taxes above. he won. 60% of the voters said they were for it in the exit polls including some repu
. good morning, steve. >> good morning, eric. the two sides in the fiscal cliff debate had their say before heading home for christmas, but no deal of course. after house speaker john boehner called off his push for a plan b last week saying the ball is now in the democrats' court. there has been no movement toward any deal. democrats want tax hikes for the wealthy. republicans want spending cuts. and some in the gop say the president doesn't want to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> when i listen to the president, i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. i think he sees a political victory at the bottom of the cliff. he gets all of this additional tax revenue for new programs and he gets to cut the military which democrats have been calling for for years and he gets to blame republicans for it. >> president obama for his part said he is optimistic a deal can still be reached. he spoke at the white house friday before leaving for hawaii where he is now. but at the same time the president acknowledging there might not be time for any kind of a grand bargain
very much. >>> and to washington now, with congress home for the holidays, a deal on the fiscal cliff looks less and less likely. that could mean coal in the stocking for house speaker john boehner and also mean the end in his two-year rein. he is facing pressure after his plan "b" failure. he proposed a plan, but republicans had to pull it off the table after admitting they just couldn't get it passed. >>> for an illustration of the pressure facing john boehner, check the latest polls. that's what we have political reporter john steinhauser for. >> americans are worried about the taxes if the nation falls off the fiscal cliff at the end of the year. seven of ten questioned in our poll says there will be major problems or a crisis in the country if that happens. >> part of what voters they were looking for is some compromise up here. that's what folks want. >> our poll indicates more americans want the republicans than the democrats to compromise more to reach bipartisan solutions. >> the democrat-controlled white house has no plan and offered no plan all year to deal with these loomi
. with congress home for the holidays, a deal on the fiscal cliff looks less and less likely. that could be mean coal in the stocking for house speaker john boehner and the end to his two-year reign as republican leader. he's facing pressure from his own party after his plan b failure. he proposed a vote on the plan to allow taxes to go up on millionaires, but republicans had to pull it off the table after admitting they can't get it passed. foorn illustration check the latest poll, and that's what we have political editor paul stein hauser doing? >> americans are worried about the tax increases and spending cuts that will kick in at the end of the year. 7-10 questioned in our cnn/orc national poll say there would be major problems or a crisis in the country if that happens. >> part of what voters were looking for is some compromise up here. that's what folks want. >> and our poll indicates more americans want the republicans rather than the democrats to compromise more to reach bipartisan solutions. >> the democrat-controlled senate and white house have no plan and have offered no plan all year
they want. >> fiscal cliff chaos. >> not the outcome that i wanted but it was the will of the house. >> after speaker boehner's stinging defeat is there any way to salvage a deal and strengthen our economy? >> how we get there, god only knows. >> i actually still think we can get it done. >> the science from the nra. >> blood-soaked films out there. violent video games. the national media machine, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> and a new pick for secretary of state. our headliner this morning, the nra's new point person on school shootings, asa hutchinson. then the senate debate with republican johnny isakson and democrat amy klobuchar. plus our powerhouse roundtable with newark mayor cory bookerer, nra board member grover norquist, peggy noonan and katrina vanden huval. >>> hello, again. the president and congress are off for christmas. fleeing a capitol filled with political dysfunction. fiscal cliff talks have completely collapsed. questions about the president's new national security team forced him to announce the appointments piecem
fiscal cliff. now new details between how talks between the president and house speaker boehner fell apart on friday. >> the rain and win, both are picking up. the waves coming over the seawall here in pacifica. we will have the latest on the >> welcome back, everyone. the latest storm is hitting the bay area right now. it promises to be a boozezy before all is said and done. let's check in with our meteorologist lisa argen. >> carolyn, it is beginning to pick up along the coast, the north bay, the santa cruz mountains. here's a look at san francisco. light rains here. the winds 20, 30 miles an hour with gusts to 40 miles an hour. but this is just the beginning. live doppler 7 on top of the mountain pinging up heavier rain from santa rosa to heelsburg. a low around the central bay but you can see some yellows and oranges. we will take you to the peninsula in a mommy. from santa rosa to windsor. bodega bay and through napa rain. but the light blue, a little lull but the wind gusts to 20 americans in oakland. 32 miles an hour half moon bay. look at pacifica down through san mateo, burl
the fiscal cliff. some folks think that perhaps senator mcconnell would not negotiate something with senate democrats if he wasn't sure that it was going to pass the house, that it would get by at least some of the republicans who would need to get by to pass. but i think the white house is hoping that he will kind of buck house republicans and agree to work something out so that something can pass the senate. but it's very much up in the air, miguel, and not certain that we are not going over the fiscal cliff at this point. >> sounds like a very dangerous game, a very complicated game of chicken, the highest levels. what is your sense of it? you spent time with the president, know washington well. do you think someone is going to blink? >> you know, if you'd asked me a couple of weeks ago, i would have said i didn't think that the country would go over the fiscal cliff. i think it's very much a possibility at this point. i was sort of surprised that, honestly, a deal wasn't worked out. so i think at this point, too, the white house would have told you behind the scenes that ultimately, a d
from a fiscal cliff deal? how far? president obama said he and house speaker john boehner talked yesterday, it was their first conversation since monday, when the two sides offered up concessions on tax hikes for the wealthy, the president offered lower tax rates for people earning up $400,000 a year, and for computing entitled benefits. in his weekly address, boehner stood firm, his message for the president, the ball is in your court. >> the president and senate democrats have vowed to reject and veto all of our proposals and failing to offer responsible solutions of their own. when the president has offered so far will not do anything to solve our spending problem and address the crippling debt. and he refuses to challenge the members of his party to deal honestly with the entitlement reform and the big issues that are facing our nation. that is why we finds orz oursel here today. >> the president's christmas break in hawaii may be quick, he is planning to return to washington right after christmas, briana, live in hawaii, i'm wondering, we are talking about the fiscal cliff t
hands. who is planning on buying the new york stock exchange and why. >>> the fiscal cliff clock ticking down. real estate roars back. what it all means for your mo y money. the hottest holiday toys. the kids at heart and why everything old is new again. the "the wall street journal report" begins right now. >> this is america's number one financial news program, "the wall street journal report." now, maria bartiromo. >> here's a look at what's making news as we head into a new week on wall street. big changes for american icon. a symbol of capitalism and wall street. the new york stock exchange is being sold to i.c.e., atlanta-based derivatives trading exchange. the deal valued at $8.25 billion. profits at the nyc has shunk, lower trading volumes. i.c.e. is interested in the nyc because of the lower-based derivative exchange. the market could not make its mind up this week. the dow posting the first back-to-back triple digit gains since july. followed up with the worst day in a month. all the moves based on, well, what else, sentiment around the fiscal cliff deal. the economy though is
housing having bottomed. so amidst all of this uncertainty that we're talking about in terms of the fiscal cliff you've got some strength happening in the underlying economy. the worry is that reverse it is we go over the cliff. talk to us about real estate and housing. you're so uniquely qualified to talk about this in so many different cities. >> you look at housing and it's the bright spot of the economy. i think it's going to help propel our economy back. miami, for example, one of the first to go down deeply along with las vegas. we operate in both of these cities. prices are up in las vegas now 7%. and miami, 8%. so you're seeing tremendous upside in housing. >> these a some of the areas that really plummeted. >> yes. >> yes. so they're coming back? >> yes. >> low bases. >> but in san francisco is coming back as well. miami roared back. miami's inventory is lower than it was at its peak. the price increases are happening more prrapidly than t last peak '06. >> fascinating. how important is this for the overall economy that you're seeing these hot spots of real gop development and bu
to the fiscal cliff discussion. we saw those talks between the house speaker and president obama collapse this week. all eyes now on the senate. i want to show what the president called for before he left for his christmas holiday on friday afternoon. here's the president. >> all of us, every single one of us, agrees that tax rates shouldn't go up for the other 98% of americans, so there is absolutely no reason, none, not to protect these americans from a tax hike. >> senator isakson, he said every republican, every democrat in washington said everyone earning under $250,000 shouldn't get a tax hike. so he wants to put that on the floor along with an extension of unemployment benefits and some relief from this that's going to hit january 1st. any chance you could support that, senator isakson? >> i feel the house should have passed speaker boehner's bill and the president's statement is right, no one wants taxes to go up on the middle class. i don't want them to go up on anybody, but i'm not in the majority in the united states senate, and he's the president of the united states. if we ge
-- if the white house and congress don't make a deal in the next nine days to avoid the fiscal cliff we ring in the new year with big tax increases and spending cuts. here to talk about what is going to happen are two leading senators. john barasso, chairman of the republican policy committee and from new york democrat kent conrad, chairman of the senate budget committee. senators welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> thanks for having me. >> good to be with you. >> chris: before heading to hawaii for christmas the president laid out a new stripped down plan to avert the fiscal cliff. here is what it is. extend the bush tax cuts for people making less than $250,000. extend unemployment benefits for the 2 million people who will run out next month and delay the sequester of $110 billion in spending cuts next year. for all of the talk of $4 trillion in debt reduction this plan would only save $800 billion over ten years. senator conrad is that the best that washington can do over the next nine days and can you pass even that? >> look, chris, it may come to that but we can do better. and we sho
'm mike shumann. have a great day. >>> and coming up next, the huge fiscal cliff. now knew tails between how talks between the president and house speaker boehner fell apart on friday. >> the wind is picking up. the rain is steady this morning. i'll have the latest on the coastal conditions from pacifica after the break. >> welcome back, everyone. the latest storm is hitting the bay area right now. we want to check in with our meteorologist lisa argen. >> hi carolyn. good morning, everyone. the rain is increasing. here's a look at down turn san francisco. light rain. a wind advisory is posted in effect in the north bay. next half-hour in san francisco the winds will continue to pick up, as well as the east bay. you sigh the heavy rain from the north bay into parts of the east bay and the santa cruz mountains. this is moderate to heavy rain here from santa rosa, windsor, up to fort ross and highway 101. the winds gusting to over 26 miles an hour in san jose. rain along the coast with 30 miles an hour gusts and hayward 23 american wind gusts. hercules more moderate rain. in oakland light i
. they lost house seats and senate seats and mitt romney rarely discussed the fiscal cliff. and we look back on the conversation and we think, gosh, it would have been nice if we had a plan that had been laid out, other than what mitt romney was saying, we're going to deal with this in a piecemeal fashion and we come to the table with that as a reality. nevertheless, why is anyone leaving down? why did the president leave town for his vacation, why did republicans start to leave town, why did democrats. if it is as serious as people say -- and i think it is, it would seem to me, even if the tea party is intransigent and that is what you want to say, they are terrible people and don't want to agree with anything, they are there and you have to deal with them, so everyone should stay in town, and can have their christmas eve dinner and do that, stay in town and figure this out and, the tea party, they believe in certain principles and they are fighting for them and think it is a spending problem, not a taking problem. i tend to agree with them, however bill's position is valid. republicans are
and to protect society from them. and house republican's plan b to avoid a fiscal crisis collapses. is there a plan c or are we headed off the cliff? and top officials testify on capitol hill about the benghazi attack, but we'll have to wait longer to hear from hillary clinton. do they are role in that debacle effect her plans for 2016? welcome to the journal, editorial report, i'm paul gigot, as the nation copes with the shooting deaths of six deaths and 20 children at an elementary school in newtown, connecticut efforts turn now to preventing the next tragedy, with president obama appointing a task force for gun violence and members of congress calling for stricter gun control measures. but my guest this week says the heart of the problem is not the availability of weapons, but the abundance of individuals with severe mental disorders who are not being treated. dr. e fuller is the founder of the treatment advocacy center and author of the "insanity offense" how america's failure it treat the seriously mentally ill is endangering its citizens. doctor torrey. welcome here. and you'
this so-called fiscal cliff? >> that's a really good question. it's one of the reasons i'm pretty excited about the fact we already acted. we acted several months ago to extend the tax cuts for all americans. we don't have to go over the cliff. there is a piece of legislation that has passed house, which is good-- >> schieffer: well, craig shirley, who is a republican operative tauthor, observer, was quoted as saying if we were in a parliamentary system, what happened to speaker boehner would have been viewed as a vote of no confidence. do you think speaker boehner ought to step aside and let somebody else try to get this done? >> speaker boehner will be the speaker next year, without any question. the onus right now is on senator reid and the president to come up with a solution, make it a piece of legislation, pass it through the senate, present it to the house, and let's get back to the bargaining table. the american people deserve for both houses to do something and ask the president to sign it. >> schieffer: well, are you saying that the house, speaker boehner, should take no respons
christmas and efforts to keep us from plunging over the fiscal cliff are on hold for now. leaders claim they will work a p house leader john boehner said the white house proposal doesn't go far enough to stop massive spending. failure will trigger tax hikes and spending cuts. >> there are weeks of protest over the constitution which opponents say give too much power to president morsi . egypt's vice-president resigned and his position will be elim flated altogether and word that government's central bark quits. i am back to huckabee. for all of the headlines go to fox news.com. the pro lifer versus pro abortion is heating nup ireland. the woman complained of pain and she asked for a abortion believing she miscarried her young baby. the doctors refused to abort the child saying the fetal heart beat was still. the women died three days later. the incident caused controversy all over the world . american pro abortion advocates pressured hillary clinton. joining us is hilary rose. an irish citizen nevy brown delair woman of love institute. it is so good to have you hered today. ireland is a
much. we'll turn to the fiscal cliff . it is approaching effort . it is earlier this week there is signs of progress and republican house speaker john boehner said plans don't do enough to address the key problem. nasa's government spending that could impact future americans . >> what the president offered so far will not resolve the spending problems . it will hurt our economy. a failing to reach a deal by december 31st would trigger tax hikes and spending hikes . and they say they are willing to continue to work toward a deal . the question is can they get it done in a time. here's steve in washington. will president obama focus on the fiscal cliff? do we know? >> probably not: there will not be done to much -- and president arrived in honolulu. within to his rented vacation home. he left washington last night after scaling back . it is still possible . he's focusing now on a middle class tax hike and extended unemployment benefits. and this congress laws can only pass for democrats and republicans and that means no one gets 100 percent of what they want. everybody has t
of the fiscal cliff now with nine days left to cut a deal. lawmakers are home for the holidays. house speaker john boehner, his plan b went bust. before leaving town president obama urged congress to pass a mini-plan that would preserve middle class tax rates. the president is now in his native hawaii for a quick christmas break. briana keiller joins us from honolulu. hello, briana. is this fiscal cliff deadline getting closer, what do we think will happen as the holidays rolls out here? >> reporter: well, there's one sort of last ditch effort possibility here, don, and that is when the senate reconvenes on the 27th, it's possible that either they could try to pass something and sort of force it on the house or it's possible that they could take a bill that they've already passed back in july with the threshold of those tax hikes being at the $250,000 level and that they could kind of say to the house, okay, now the ball is in your court. you have to deal with this, but it's still very much a possibility, don, that this doesn't work out, that we go over the fiscal cliff, and that was reflecte
be shutting down for christmas, but the clock hasn't stopped running and the fiscal cliff is closer than ever. no deal was reached this week to keep taxes from going up for everyone at the end of the year. house speaker john boehner says he's hopeful a deal can be reached, but in his weekly address, he continued hammering away at president obama. >> this was the year the size of our debt, all $16 trillion of it, surpassed the size of our entire economy. it's a grim milestone, one of many we'll have to bear if we don't come to grips with it. the president's solution of raising tax rates would still leave red ink for as far as the i can see. >> reporter: president obama landed in ha for the christmas break. on friday, the president said he believes it's still possible to avoid the fiscal cliff, but also acknowledging the political reality by pushing a scaled-back plan for cutting taxes on the middle class. >> even though democrats and republicans are arguing about whether those rates should go up for the wealthiest individuals, all of us, every single one of us, agrees that tax rates shouldn't
in, calling for armed guards in schools. the fiscal cliff, just ten days away with no deal in sight. in fact, president obama and house speaker john boehner are literally thousands of mimes away from each other. both men left washington for the holidays and president obama and family, they are in his native hawaii for a short christmas break. he returns to washington after the holiday. in egypt, the president is stepping down. this man announced today that political life does not agree with him and he'll go back to being a judge. it's the same day the egyptian people are voting for a second straight weekend on proposed changes to the country's newest islamist-backed constitution. the new president gave himself near absolute power. those are your headlines this hour. i'm don lemon, keeping your informed. cnn, the most trusted name in news. >>> it was one of the most important diplomatic missions in history. also one of the most clandestine and risky. four decades ago, henry kissinger, then president nixon's national security adviser secretly flew to china, beginning a string of meeti
. >> fiscal cliff chaos. >> it's not the outcome that i wanted, but that was the will of the house. >> after speaker boehner's stinging defeat, is there any way to salvage a deal and strengthen our economy? >> how we get there, god only knows. >> i actually still think we can get it done. >> the science from the nra. >> blood-soaked films out there. violent video games. the national media machine. the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >>> and a new pick for secretary of state.
in just a moment here on cnn. >>> the fiscal cliff, well, just ten days away with no deal in sight. president obama, house speaker john boehner literally thousands of miles apart. boehner is back in ohio. president obama and family are in his native hawaii. he is planning to return to washington after christmas. >>> a weekend of violence. explosions and death in syria. at least five people killed in damascus today when a powerful car bomb blew up in this residential neighborhood. it tore through apartment buildings and filled the streets with debris. more than 140 people reportedly died in attacks across syria, most in damascus and its suburbs. >>> india, riot police blasted protesters with high-pressure water hoses trying to break up massive angry rallys against the government. people are furious after a woman reportedly gang raped and beaten on a moving city bus last weekend. protesters demanding changes to india's laws regarding rape saying women are not safe in new delhi and other cities in india. >>> a former marine spent more than four months at a mexican prison is free and h
is the inevitable that we go over the fiscal cliff. true, it was asking the house republicans to vote for a tax increase. but it was -- they got some cover from grower and others and i think it was a political exercise more so than anythings and it had enabled the work, it would have changed the scenario. >> governor, you know first-hand the politics of raising taxes. what did you make of all this? >> i almost felt sorry for speaker boehner. being torn apart by his own caucus. i'm enthusiastic about them passing anything. tax bills have to start in the house. the senate can take whatever vehicle they send over and substitute for it something that makes sense and have it sent back and it's on them to say yes or no as to whether we go over the cliff. that's really the approach. >> so you want to see something come out of the house? >> anything. anything. and you substitute the total bill. but it has to come out of the house and that's the rationale for getting something there. >> they actually did get something out of the house early last week. they stopped the defense sequester and that's all th
boehner, you would be forgiven for thinking about the fiscal cliff fight is about taxes. >> unless the president and congress take action. tax rates will go up on every american taxpayer. >> if the argument is that they can't do, they can't increase tax rates on folks making $700,000 or $800,000 a year, that's not a persuasive argument to me and it's certainly not a persuasive argument to the american people. >> here is the rub -- the discussion centers on whether or not to let the top income tax rate jump from 35% to 39.6% on the marginal part. the part above the number of the let's call it $400,000. john boehner says don't give the government more revenue because it already spends altogether too much. now the question is not really wouldabout that 4 billion 6% continues on what the rich would pay in taxes. the real conversation boils down to the role of government. generally speaking, democrats are willing to entertain a bigger role of government in society, republicans want a role it back. it's ideology. but a more constructive conversation would be how much do we expect to bene
for the president and house republicans to find common ground and avoid that fiscal cliff. >> i am still ready and willing to get a comprehensive package done. >> we'll continue to work our colleagues in the congress and white house on plan that will protect small businesses. >> alisyn: after a week, still at a stand still. where should the the congress go from here. >> good morning. >> alisyn: most people will consider what happened this week with john boehner's failure to bring even a vote on so-called plan b to be an embarrassment for the speaker, but you think that the g.o.p. dodged a bullet here? >> yeah, they dodged a serious bullet here in in case, when you think about it one of the most appealing quality of their brand they're principally opposed to tax increases that we don't have a revenue problem that we have a spending problem. to be on record as voting for a very anti-growth tax increase, i think, would imperil their house majority. >> and stf with just new years avenue, december 31st he. but he says actually the drop dead is the 27th to do the technicalities they have to do to pa
to retire. do you think they're going to get past this fiscal cliff? >> i do. i have an abiding faith that we will not leave-- and this is going to take presidential leadership, hands-on leadership-- it's going to take both houses of congress, and everyone to realize we can't let taxes go up on working people in this country, and the bush tax cuts are tax cuts that did help our economy in the beginning. we are in the doldrums now because of the debt and the deficits that are dragging down our economy, as well as the over-regulation of small business. i think we've got to do something to do a patch now, which, clearly, on december 27, when mark warner and i go back, it is going to be a patch because in four days, we can't solve everything. >> schieffer: let me ask-- >> but i think we need to stop this fiscal cliff at a reasonable if salary level and then start working on the spending cuts. >> schieffer: about 30 seconds, senator. will there be a small deal? >> i think there's going to, unfortunately, be only a small deal. unless we get to dpowrl trillion, we're just kick the hand. we t
of the effects of the fiscal cliff and get a tax cut extension for those making $250,000 or less. wealthier americans would pay for. you would avoid the fiscal cliff for now. you kick the can down the road. this is washington dysfunction at its height but it would forestal the cliff >>> i wonder if we are seeing a change to speaker boehner that got his hand slapped by some members of his party. is there long-term damage here? >> the white house is that they don't have a real partner to negotiate with. republicans are facing a reality that the public is supportive of raising taxes on wealthier americans. they are likely to have to support that. the question is always whether boehner is going to move forward without a majority support from his own party on a particular bill that may start from coming from the senate. these are debates that have to still be resolved. even if there is a short-term deal, these big issues over taxes and spending are far from resolved. if we get into the president's second term, they are still going to be occupying him. >> for folks who maybe may not have focused,
, david he. >>gregg: good luck with that. negotiatorses looking for a solution to fiscal cliff and facing a political cliff. the stakes are high as rebound and house speaker boehner look for support from their rank and file and the american people, who comes out ahead who is the big loser. we will bring in our political insider, john leboutillier, former republican congressman for new york, pa can -- pat caddell, former pollster for jimmy carter, and doug schoen, former pollster if bill clinton. joe lieberman said today and he is a pretty straight shooter and he said this is really the first time he felt it was more likely we will go over the cliff. >> with the collapse of the republican plan last thursday and the fact that the president is putting forward the same proposal he has been proposing for weeks if not months there is no consensus and everyone has left town and we only have nine days and four of those days everyone is on vacation. >>gregg: boehner could not get the support of his own party on his plan "b" solution. how were of a fiasco was that? >> i would say up there with the
years. the senate has not passed anything on the fiscal cliff greathouse have something with economics. all the senate has to do is pass something and they can go to a conference committee to get the whole thing ironed out. i think kerry reid and the senate and obama, because the democrats in the senate are doing his bidding, that is where the real obstacles to getting something done. >> there was a perception created that the vote last night would increase taxes. now, i disagree with that characterization. but that impression is out there. the number of our members who just really didn't want to be perceived as having to raise taxes. that was the real issue. gerri: in some ways he was talking about grover norquist. the man it is about this tax pledge where is the common ground there? >> the reason that we have a plan be now is because the houses are devoted to pass all of the bills. gerri: but how do you find common ground thee? them and that's what the speaker was trying to do. he was talking about the race there now. as you saw, the president and the house, where we go from here, we
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